Every hero needs a wise elder sage to help them in the journey. Michael and SJ open the discussion on the Elder Sage Initiative exploring the issue of fatherlessness and the importance of having an Elder Sage through the Stages of Masculinity. Jim Chenet and Jim McCauley join the discussion in the second half to share the reason why we need Elder Sages and invite the audience to explore more of this topic in the forthcoming Elder Sage Video Series.