First Name: Harold
Last Name: Jeffery
Email: haljefferyiv@gmail.com
Mobile Phone: 405-203-4586
Address:
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Birth Month: June
Birth Day: 8
Birth Year: 1949
Why are you interested in pursuing this initiative?:
To serve Christ.  We serve Him by serving others. Perhaps this is what He is calling me to. 
God has given me a lot of knowledge. Of Him. Of the Bible. But knowledge is not wisdom.  How can I use this gift?  How SHOULD I be using this gift?

Tell us about your family::
I've been married 50 years. We have 2 children and 5 grandchildren. My children have been hurt by the church, so their commitment is erratic.
When growing up, I defended myself or I was undefended.  I knew my mother loved me.  But she had her own problems dealing with my father.


What is your experience with Zoweh events and/or resources?:
I attended Zoweh in Roanoke when King Me was passed out.  Michael gave me the "Oklahoma pen" because we have more Oklahoma in common than I would have believed.
I participated in discussion of the book with Troy, Stephen, Michael, and Jay. And viewed the 4 part series on Elder-Sage.

How did you first connect with Jesus in a personal way?:
I was brought up going to church every Sunday. I had a Sunday School teacher who taught me that if I believe in Christ, I must serve him.
Years later, my wife and I attended a Bible study. We only intended to go once, because we "knew" that the leader wasn't who we wanted to listen to. After going for almost a year, the light bulb above my head turned on.  I already knew being "good enough" wasn't what God was seeking from me. But  now I understood that accepting Him meant accepting His free gift. I had to accept Him as my Lord and Savior. And all that implies. In return, I received eternal life.  With Him.

Tell us about a time when you shared your Jesus story.:
I have given my testimony a couple of times when it seemed appropriate. Otherwise, it has been in bits and pieces.  Usually in Bible Study, or similar environments.  Acknowledging our own mistakes and joys is a good teaching tool.  

Explain your familiarity with the following terms: wounds, vows and agreements.:
We're all wounded.  The worst wounds are created by those we care most about.  Most are caused by carelessness and thoughtlessness more than deliberate intent. Knowing that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.  We will always make mistakes.  More than anything, I don't want to repeat them.
Vows are easy to say. How much do we mean them?  I hate catching myself in a lie. So I would rather not make a vow (or agreement) than risk failure to do what I promise.  Does that make my too afraid to commit myself?  Perhaps.


Tell us about a significant wounding moment that you experienced.:
My most memorable was when I wounded someone else.
At a weekend church retreat, The leader and I were talking about my experience.  I had a problem with one portion of the weekend, and that's all I was talking about. The leader was hurt because all he was hearing was criticism.  And he told me so. I stopped where I was, thought about what I had said, and realized he was right.  Everything I was saying was negative.  He needed to hear some of that, but there was so much more that deserved praise.  I immediately apologized. And told him what was very right.  We became closer friends after that.  He gave me more credit than I deserved for admitting I was wrong and he was right.  I think I have sought better balance since then.  But I still get caught in my own feelings at times.

Explain your personal familiarity with spiritual warfare.:
I was a member of a church that literally split in half.  That and other happenings proved to me that there is a source of evil.  Satan does exist.

Give an example of how you have heard from God.:
My Bible knowledge is because of my attendance in Bible Study Fellowship (BSF).  One time, two discussion groups were put together because of a missing discussion leader.  There was a question that I wrote what I considered to be a simplistic, rote answer.  But something in me (a small voice) said I had to make sure that answer was spoken.  When the leader was about to move to the next question, I spoke up and gave my answer.  Afterward, a gentleman from the other class came up to me. "Thank you. Thank you. Thank You. I was always told we could KNOW we would go to heaven, but I never understood how.  Your answer cleared up my thoughts, and now I understand. I do know that  I will go to heaven."  That was the Holy Spirit speaking through me. It was not my thought, my answer, but the message he needed to hear.  I think God has used me other times.  But never with the certainty of that experience.

Have you had any training in listening and/or engaging in another man's story?:
No

Which of the following books have you read?: King Me, The Screwtape Letters, Mere Christianity
How did you discover the Elder-Sage Initiative?: Small Group
What is the best time to call you?: Monday or Friday after 10:00.  Tuesday after 2:00.  Not Wednesday or Thursday.  Any evening other than Wednesday.
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First Name: Jay
Last Name: Inge
Email: jayinge@gmail.com
Phone: 540-312-8909